i Wouldn’t go calling someone Mentally Challenged Unless of course they‘re Paraplegic. I Graduated College with a Bachelors degree In Painting. ?

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  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Um what????? A paraplegic is someone who doesn’t have control over their lower half of their body... how does that make them mentally challenged?

Paraplegia is a physical disease not a mental one. You wouldn’t call Stephen Hawking mentally disabled would you? And he’s a quadriplegic...

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

I think they mean unless they have a brain injury and no brain function due to injury or other circumstances. It’s easy to mix it up when you’re angry. Paraplegic could be in this sense a metaphor for not having control over your body in a way that effects your brain function. Mental illness isn’t one of these, it’s not a brain injury but a chemical imbalance and mood disorder. Yes I have a degree and plan on getting a masters and doctorate in English. I’ve got full brain function. Am not mentally challenged despite my depression. In fact I excel in all things to do with knowledge and study.

  • Op
4 years ago

You make a fair point, you wouldn’t call someone Retarded if They Graduated From College with a Bachelors Degree in Fine Arts, Would You?!

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Bachelors in painting

???????

Can you use crayola crayons?

Also I’m roasting you for how insensitive you are to the paralyzed. You truly need more help with your morals.

Maybe painting kindness shall help

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

I wouldn’t call anyone retarded, cuz it’s not a nice word, but to someone who says paraplegics are mentally challenged, I would probably call them ignorant.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

No, people in the creative arts generally have a higher iq than the general public. Most people don’t have such skills. Music, art and dance use parts of the brain that other activities don’t. The brain must become mentally tougher because the neurons have to form faster, stronger connections to perform the activity. You have to form better, faster, stronger neural pathways in the brain. Skills include better visual, spatial awareness, better coordination, faster reaction time, learning faster, better coordination due to signals in the brain being sent to the muscles faster, muscle memory, perfect pitch, faster sight reading, stronger muscles,logical thinking, discipline in other activities due to discipline in the arts... I could go on. I’ve read plenty of books on the brain.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

are you a troll. please say yes

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Not everyone knows the details of being a paraplegic, while it doesn’t effect brain activity in general in terms of iq, you can’t truly know some effects it may have without having experienced it yourself. It could effect it in other ways. If you are paraplegic it generally means that the area of the brain in charge of movement or spinal chord is compromised due to a brain injury or any injury relating to these areas of the body. In this sense what the author said is not incorrect. You can experience a mental challenge as a result, not in iq but brain function in the motor neurons, or motor cortex of the brain. Still it’s not good to condescend people who are paraplegic, but I think this guy was just using such an example to put their idea into context.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

kinesthesia for dancers also another skill.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

^ you’ve read plenty of books on the brain and you’re calling people who are paraplegic mentally challenged?

And to address your last point, you seem to be talking about how people with higher iq’s tend to have more creative potential than the general public, but that doesn’t make anyone who goes to art school more creative than the general public. It’s something you either have the potential for or you don’t.

So yes most famous artists have high iq’s because people with high iq’s have a higher creative potential.

But that does not mean anyone who gets a four year degree in arts is automatically smarter than the general public. There are a lot of smart people in any given degree field and there are a lot of not so smart people in any given degree field.

  • Op
4 years ago

^ Anonymous lover 5, your my kind of person. :) I was really using what I said as a metaphor, because some anons called me retarded and used my mental health condition against me, because they were saying you can’t have crushes if you’re in a committed relationship..which on their part was ignorant and I felt like I was getting morally attacked.

  • @ anon 8
4 years ago

Op’s “metaphor” was a completely irrelevant one. When the word mentally challenged comes to mind, “paraplegia” should not be the first thing that comes to mind.

And you said yourself that paraplegia doesn’t affect iq so why are you defending op in calling physically handicapped people retarded?

If you’re saying anyone who has their brain chemistry disrupted is mentally challenged than you must think that people who have strokes are mentally disabled as well.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Mental health conditions don’t mean you’re retarded! It means you’ve experienced trauma in your life generally at the hands of ignorant, inconsiderate people. Many top barristers etc. people in high paying, mentally tough, highly educated jobs who have mental illness can attest to that, even Nathaniel Anthony Ayess who studied music in Juilliard can attest to that. I think you can admire people when you’re in a committed relationship, but you should be just that; committed to your partner and the relationship. It’s also not fair on said partner, but we’ve all got eyes, doesn’t mean we act on those fancies. If you are going to, break up with your partner first, it hurts more to be cheated on than dumped. Also if you’re partner is insecure should you tell them you have other crushes so they know you’re being honest with them and that they can trust you, or should you protect them from further insecurities? Not sure myself. Probably the first one, it will make you and them stronger.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Yeah mentally challenged = cognitive function is impaired. Your metaphor sucks balls. Deal with it.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Also mental Illness isn’t not the end of your life, we have this thing called Neuroplasticity where we can actually change the brain and the connections, thoughts in the brain. We’re constantly learning and adapting to our environments. You can heal your brain with the right tools even if they haven’t been discovered for some mental illnesses.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Op if “mental health conditions don’t make you retarded” like you said in your last comment than why the hell would you post that “i Wouldn’t go calling someone Mentally Challenged Unless of course they‘re Paraplegic”

Your argument is all over the place and not making any sense and I’m done here because you can’t see how offensive it is to call someone mentally disabled when they have a physical disability.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Op seems mentally challenged and is projecting that to the poor paraplegics! O have thy not taken thy medicine this morning my dumb one?!

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

I’m not calling them mentally disabled because they are paraplegic. I’m merely acknowledging the fact that it has its roots in the brain and spinal chord and that in effect makes it a mental disability, a disability of the motor cortex, while not effecting the iq. Being retarded has nothing to do with being paraplegic. Being retarded in any case is just an extra chromosome, it doesn’t mean their stupid, neither does being paraplegic. Both are out of our immediate control. What I wanted to get across is that this person while using being paraplegic as an example, while not entirely accurate, was simply proving the point that they are not retarded because they have a bachelors degree. Should the issue then not be, labeling people as retarded when we really mean simple, stupid, low iq, uneducated,unlearned, illiterate, of small wit, of little Greek and of small Latin?

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Ps not all disabilities look the same, are in wheelchairs, some are on the inside, and can’t be seen with the naked eye. Just because they exist in the brain doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Mental disability doesn’t effect iq, I’m living proof of that.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Doesn’t mean They’re stupid- typos

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

It seems you have nothing intelligent to say and have lost the argument and so you’ve resorted to mocking someone who’s more intelligent than you. Well done you!

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

In a somewhat, no completely, childish manner.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

True about some people getting degrees without brains or talent, usually it’s down to mummy and daddy paying them to get the degree, and winning the application lottery. There’s also the people who do have these in spades. There’s a lot of studies on the brain and arts that prove the theory that musicians, artists and dancers have higher iQs. If you’re interested books and documentaries like The Music Instinct,This is your Brain on music, all prove this. I’m one of the fortunate ones, in that, I have both intellect and talent.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

And a mental illness to boot.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Ps higher creative potential due to high iQ’s? Lol There’s a lot we don’t know about talent, in terms of the nature versus nurture. Is it genetics that makes someone talented, or environment? This is the subject of many dissertations. What many believe is they coexist, you can’t have one without the other. They’re interdependent. Also you need certain traits like determination, willpower, discipline, motivation, repetition to succeed at anything even if you have talent. Plenty of people with low iQs have talent, plenty of people with high iQs don’t.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Also finance can come into it, can your parents afford the best tutors, the best instruments? There’s a lot of forces at work here.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

It’s a damn Ted Talk in here

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Some people try to buy talent, I always worked on it alone. Never had a teacher until college.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

I’m taking that as a compliment. Thanks ?

  • Op
4 years ago

I’m the one who originally Came Up with this Whole Mess. I know My Metaphor was irrelevant, But My Point being is You Shouldn’t call Someone Retarded if they Have a Mental Health Condition or Disability of Any Kind even if I said Someone was Mentally challenged for Being Parapeligic. just because someone is Different then you, Doesn’t Fucking Mean You should Stygmatize their Damn Asses?! Do I make myself Perfectly Clear?!

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

I love you for saying this! Thank you for standing up for people like me with mental illness and I’m definitely not retarded. ❤️

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

As I’ve proved in my arguments.

  • Op
4 years ago

I have a Mental health Condition and I Graduated From College with a Bachelors Degree in Fine Arts. Not that many people can say they’ve had the same Opportunity. What I’m Trying to say is I Am Not Stupid Or Fucking Retarded for Having A Mental health Condition. It Certainly doesn’t mean you Can Fucking say, “ Looks like Someone Skipped their Meds this Morning.” Because let me tell you, you look like a 9 year old when you say that shit.

  • confused
4 years ago

op's point is to not call people retarded.

every anon's point is to not call people retarded.

so why is there an argument going on here???

  • me again ^
4 years ago

everyone in this whole thread is being petty. just drop it, forget about it, move on.

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Not when I’m being bullied! Hi music heads/potheads!

  • anonymous lover
4 years ago

Don’t insult my intelligence you won’t win.

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